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How to (sort of) get Truetransparency on Win7

Journal Entry: Wed Sep 22, 2010, 9:29 AM
A lot of people ask me how to make TrueTransparency play nice with Windows 7.

The short answer is: You can... well sort of.

Here are the general problems (I'm going to assume people with Win7 are on the 64-bit version, or Win7 x64).

1) Explorer windows are not skinned (or any 64-bit programs for that matter).
2) Explorer windows skin, but the toolbar is completely transparent.

First, you will need both TrueTransparency x86 and x64.
For your convenience, here is a zip with both (x64 can be hard to find): dl.dropbox.com/u/7100381/TrueT…


To skin all windows, you will need to run both the TrueTransparency.exe in the TrueTransparency x64 AND TrueTransparency x86 folders.

At this point, all windows should be skinned (with the exclusion of "special" windows like Google chrome, Command Prompt, GIMP/Photoshop, Task Manager, etc.

You may notice that the explorer toolbar is completely transparent. There are two workarounds for this.

One involves removing the toolbar from your current theme using Windows Style Builder or a resource editor. (In stylebuilder, using the left navigation pane, go: Toolbars, Headers and Rebar > Rebar > NavBar > Basic > Base > Band Put last value -33. This effectively gives the toolbar a negative height, preventing it from being drawn.)

The simpler method is to simply disable Aero and just use the basic windows (although I can't find a way to do this... hmmm maybe some of you will know).

When you use TT, sometimes programs will hang and become unresponsive. Simply kill both TT processes in task manager and you programs should run again. You can start up TT after those are done.

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spowsleuh Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013
Whenever I start windows, only truetransparency(x32) starts. I can't set truetransparency x64 to start after boot.
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ganknevets Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Hobbyist Interface Designer
LOL. SUP SANG. Wow bro. I gave up on TT while on Win 7 X64 SP1. TT will not work correctly. I admire you for coming up with this solution. I finally got the hang of Restorator! LOL
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Mr-Ragnarok Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
I have done this "In stylebuilder, using the left navigation pane, go: Toolbars, Headers and Rebar > Rebar > NavBar > Basic > Base > Band Put last value -33"

Now when I log off the computer wont let me back in. I have to log on with another account and delete the theme. Do U know what I did wrong?
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nanu08 Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Same probs here...
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djeos546 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012
Errr, another way to fix the Aero fullglass glitch ??
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FaithFX Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2012  Hobbyist
Hey *MangoSango !

Thanks for the nice help. But could you help me? I don't have Windows Style Builder and I want to ask you if you could remove the toolbar from this VS [link] It would be much appreciated!
The TT problem with foobar I try to figure it out by myself.

I would be glad about help (:
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gummysauce Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2011
Do you have any idea how to fix the firefox bug?
When I maximize firefox, the tabs and address bar will be hidden.
When I minimize it, part of the tabs will be hidden :(
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mangosango Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2011  Professional Interface Designer
From what I gather, firefox is using some sort of hack to draw its tabs over the aero window's titlebar (like google chrome does with its tabs). The problem is, is that truetransparency draws over the entirety of the windows titlebar (thus covering up your tabs in the process).

A workaround would be to use the older 3.xx style of firefox tabs (that are below the titlebar). You can also use the truetransparency exclude manager (which should be accessible via the tray) to exclude firefox from the skinned app list.

Probably not the fix you were hoping for, but I hope it helps!
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gummysauce Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2011
Aah i think i'd rather exclude it then, thanks for the help, it definitely helped :D
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thegoodnesrus Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011
but how to run both? i cant use 64 version on my 32 os system!
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mangosango Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011  Professional Interface Designer
If you have a 32-bit OS you just have to run the 32-bit version. 64-bit OS uses a 64-bit version of the windows file browser (explorer) and thus those windows aren't skinned by truetransparency.
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thegoodnesrus Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2011
and what, i have some bugs with ff too, and what can i do?
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mangosango Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2011  Professional Interface Designer
What kinds of bugs? I'm not the developer of TT, so I'm not sure how much I can help, but I'll see if i can help :)
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thegoodnesrus Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2011
dont worry i try to fix it by myself :)
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KyAnony186 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2011
is this the way to fix this [link] i just madly want to remove the transparency around the address bar
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RampageOnBoard Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2011
How do you disable the transparency? I got the same problem here.
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KyAnony186 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2011
it DID fix the problem but can you tell me the way to do the same w firefox??
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requestedRerun Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2010  Student General Artist
A quick way to disable dwm is to go to "Computer," then in the toolbar click "system Properties," then on the left sidebar click "Advanced System Settings." Thenn, in the advanced tab and under "performance," click settings. Under the "Visual effects" tab, uncheck Enable Desktop composition. :|
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fsfryan Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2010
for x86 ?
same method?
unfortunately i dont have wsb :(
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mangosango Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2010  Professional Interface Designer
Hey! Sorry I don't check my dA as often any more. Yes, same goes for x86. Have you tried using Qttabbar? I think I saw dmone using it with TT in one of his screenshots.
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FateZoom Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2010  Student Interface Designer
thanx man, but in wsb after that i do the changes it keeps popping with and error in the .mmstyle, you have anythning like that?
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Nokadota Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2010  Professional General Artist
Finally, a solution!
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burnsplayguitar Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2010  Hobbyist Interface Designer
huhhhh! good hints here! i'll try it when i go home!

here my TT works only in PS, firefox and apps windows
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bubble-qumm Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
haha i just found it tooo ... omg ... but this is great ... and you shared both TT .... <3

it does lag a bit .... but i think it is ok to deal with .....
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my99 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2010
The only thing you can't change themes unless you enable it again
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my99 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2010
eh, None of that needs to be done. Go in services.msc (click on start button and then search for services.msc), and then, in the Services window, search for Desktop Window Manager. Then, double click on it and change the startup type from automatic to disabled. Click on Apply, then press Stop and click OK. If you don't notice any changes at this point, restart the computer and see if it solves. Hope I was helpful.
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xtrim Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
I have done that and it solves the transparent toolbar, but now I see that on my windows
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my99 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
You have dug up an old post lol

What you mean? transparency is not working on your explorer windows?
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:iconxtrim:
xtrim Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
I mean I solved the transaparency problem, but now TT not appear.
It must look like fooobar, but...look at the img
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my99 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
ok aero's disabled :)

Are you on x64? you normally need to run both versions of truetransparency x64 and x86

one will skin explorer the other will skin the apps

btw Looks good so for :)
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xtrim Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
thanks for ask me
I'm on x64 and running 64 an 86 version, but it doesnt work any way
I dont know where is the problem, but thanks
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my99 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012
Do you have the versions found here?

I'm on x64 they work for me
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:iconxtrim:
xtrim Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012
Yeah, but dont worry I finally desist
thanks for the help
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heath28m Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2010   Artist
Odd.. I sometimes get unresponsiveness when WerFault is triggered .. it can take a while.. on x86.. I believe this a bug that the autor ignored.. and was hard to communicate to them there is a language barrier there.. I read about in the forums.. then all of a sudden with 1.4.1. He just decided to stop working on it..

Thought that was very odd..
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